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Hi Everybody,
We found this amazing video and article on Chess, Go and Artificial Intelligence.
The strongest players of chess today are computers. But, in Go, the strongest players are still human. Wow. Check this out.
Microsoft has released a game on Xbox Live Arcade called 'Path of Go', a computerised version of the ancient Chinese board game of Go. What makes this neat is that, as the video show, teaching a computer to play chess is relatively easy. You can only make 20-30 moves at any one time. But in Go, there can be up to 361 moves possible at any one time, making a realistic simulation of the game difficult.
Joaquin Quiñonero Candela, Senior Applied Researcher, speaks about the possibilities of the new Xbox Live Arcade game, The Path of Go. Watch this video
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Mind boggling and I just thought I was kinda getting there with chess. Duh.
ReplyDelete361 possible moves is true at the beginning of a game of Go, but as each player makes a move, the number of possible moves decreases by one, sometimes by more than that because of increasing illegal moves. There are also moves a normal person should rule out, such as a move where it causes them to lose a territory. So, it's not as complicated as most people think.
ReplyDeleteThe problem with using a computer program to play Go is that most programmers do not know how to eliminate moves aggressively by getting rid of moves caused by symmetry of the board and obvious bad moves. Apparently those kinds of moves are difficult to identify by a computer program. I already has some vague ideas on how to approach this problem, but it will take time.
I wonder if Go or any other boardgame could match chess in the emotion, the passion and the creativity. Where is the Queen, the King, the pawns, the rooks and bishops and of course all those beautiful things that happen on a chessboard. Not possible anywhere else.
ReplyDeleteI think the article is in relation to artificial intelligence and not about chess vs go. So it's interesting. Of course, chess is chess.
ReplyDeleteThe world is just discovering the East - particularly China. So I think the focus on Go. One reason the Chinese are good at chess is because of their thinking patterns with Chinese board games. I always said folks start learning Chinese.
ReplyDeleteCool video. But no matter what I think I would stick with chess forever. It cannot be reasoned. (Where else would I find Chess Queen?)
ReplyDeleteSooner or later they would crack Go. AI is developing real fast. No big deal. But chess would remain chess and Go would remain Go - for humans that is - fun and more.
ReplyDeleteHey Egoist Paul keep us posted. Am sure Chess Queen would love to hear more about your progress and experiments like the rest of us.
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